Wednesday, July 9, 2014

Kuecker: Interview with Dr. Cynthia Rosenzweig, May 30, 2014.

At ICLEI 2014 in Bonn, Germany, I interviewed Dr. Cynthia Rosenzweig about Habitat III.  Through her pioneering work with the Urban Climate Change Research Network, Dr. Rosenzweig is widely known in the urban resilience community. Her credentials make her a global leader in the field of climate change and its impact on the urban form.  Dr. Rosenzweig is a Senior Research Scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, a Professor at Barnard College, and a Senior Research Scientist at the Earth Institute at Columbia University.  Among her many accomplishments, Dr. Rosenzweig recently co-chaired the New York City Panel on Climate Change, and served as a Coordinating Lead Author of the IPCC Working Group II Fourth Assessment Report.  She is a recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship.   

What is the importance of Habitat Three? 
“It is tremendously important, because it’s at the General Assembly level and it sets the urban agenda for the next twenty years.  We really have reached a watershed moment in the history of our planet in which over half the human beings on the planet now reside in urban areas.  Urbanization has become a global process and most be taken into account in global governance, which is what the United Nations is about.”

Do you participate in the Habitat III formation process? 
“For Habitat III, I am involved with the post 2015 Sustainable Development Goals (SDG) process, because the SDG process is happening this year, and will be presented to the United Nations for a vote at the end of this year or the start of next year.  Habitat III comes quite soon after the post 2015 agenda, so there are connections.   For example, at ICLEI 2014, I have been participating in a think tank about initiating ideas for Habitat III.  As I understand it, the German Development Bank asked ICLEI to organize a think tank process to begin getting ideas circulating, especially some framing ideas for the Habitat III process.  They asked people to participate, and I was asked to participate.” 

What should be the priority for Habitat III?   
“The actual framing of Habitat III evolves through time, it’s a very, very complex global community process for it to finally come to fruition.  From my perspective, putting forward the framing of the global urban and human settlement as a system is a priority.  It should be similar to how we think about the climate system, which is at the base of the understanding used by the UN climate change process.  It would understand urbanization as a planetary process.  Now we have a global urban system just as we have a global climate system, and understanding that global process has a spectrum of cities from the largest urban areas and mega urban regions down to human settlements of villages, which need to be included as well.  It’s basically the entire system of human settlement.  The system has flows that are the global urban system; it’s the flow of energy, of finance, of people, rural-urban migration and country-to-country migration.  So, it’s understanding the global urban system, as a set of interconnected flows.  It is this framing that I think we have to put forward.”

“Then I would think about what is the consequence of this framing?  What would countries do with this framing?  What would be the action item?  From this frame, there can be a call for every nation to have a national urban policy, an urban strategy, a national plan for how to deal with the human settlements in their country.  Another priority is to provide the countries of the world with the knowledge that they need to create their national urban plans, to create a knowledge body in some ways analogous to the IPCC.  Just as we have the climate global climate system and the IPCC, we have a global urban system and leadership from UN Habitat.  Another part of the framing that has to happen and within that larger frame of what countries need to do is how we translate ideas and plans to cities down on the ground.  Translation is one part that is very important, something we learned from the climate change field.  For cities, we need to conceptualize them as metropolitan regions and understand that cities need to be managed as interconnected systems consisting of key parts such as watersheds, infrastructure sheds, or ecosystems.  We need to understand metropolitan regions are the local governments that need to have as much autonomy as they can.  Everyone needs to understand that we need to be managing the metropolitan regions at the systems scale but that the local governments need to play an important role.”

“Another Habitat III priority is the urban-rural dynamic and its challenges.  We need to frame the entire issue of urban sustainability as absolutely complimentary to rural areas as well.  We want to see that urban and rural areas are partners.  We do not want to frame Habitat III as urban vs. rural.”

Is there competition between the post 2015 SDG agenda and Habitat III?
“No, these are sequential and complimentary processes.  But, there needs to be a stand-alone urban sustainable development goal within the SDG agenda.  We cannot ignore the city in the SDG process and post 2015 discussions.  We will have to see what transpires with COP 2015 and SDG 2015, and then Habitat III comes in 2016.”

Will cities transcend the nation-state in dealing with problems like climate change?

“The United Nations will remain important.  It’s called the United Nations, where the nation-states come together to address global problems.  Cities are a different political entity compared to nation-states.  They are partners with the nation-state in the field of sustainable development.  But, cities are the place where the action occurs.  There will be multi-level governance.   The United Nations has the advantage that when it does something countries come aboard.  It has the power of framing the issues, setting the new urban agenda.”